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+ ^5 i' b! C2 ?$ ~$ F; x原帖:https://www.wargamer.com/reviews/field-of-glory-empires/7 T/ W8 X% }' K; ^% D% B
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BLUF – Bottom Line Up Front: They nailed it. Slitherine-AGEOD’s new grand strategy game Field of Glory: Empires is here and I think it just set the standard on how challenging is was to be top dog in the days of Rome. I’m talking at least XII Ave’s for not only producing one of the best ancient grand strategy games on the market, but because the designers have also taken the genre one step beyond.3 w* s/ K6 G1 ~
We’ve a lot to cover, so let’s begin.
" O, j5 Z) p* ^3 D' ?( ^4 w/ W话说在前面:他们搞定了这个东西。我认为 Slitherine-AGEOD的新战略游戏Field of Glory:Empires在这里设定了在罗马时代顶级战略游戏的挑战标准。 我至少在谈论XII Ave's,因为它不仅是市场上最好的古代大战略游戏之一,而且因为设计师们也将这一类型推向了一步。
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9 O8 k* M+ j5 `/ D$ I. lOfficially, Field of Glory: Empires (FOGE) is an area movement, grand strategy game where each turn represents a year and each military unit is about a Legion’s worth of troops, some 5000 Pilum or Pike personnel. By grand strategy I mean that you are the man in charge, Caesar as it were, and your primary job in the game is supreme resource manager (plus). You have control over all the traditional stuff seen in such games such as agriculture, mining, trade, industry, the military, pretty much everything. To be successful you must juggle all these commodities and more in order to pump up your military and expand your territory at the expense of other countries who decline to accept your benevolent rule. At the same time, your juggling act must also keep your people happy, prosperous and your political competition subdued.9 L/ ~' g0 D  ?. @0 f. x2 ~# T
据官方说法, FOGE是一个区域机制的大战略游戏,每个回合代表一年,每个军事单位大约是军团(Legion)大小的部队,大约5000标枪或长枪兵。关于大战略,我的意思是你是执掌大权的人,Caesar就是这样,你在游戏中的主要工作是最高资源管理者(加)。 你可以控制农业,采矿业,贸易,工业,军队等几乎所有游戏中看到的所有传统的东西。 要取得成功,你必须兼顾所有这些内容以及更多,以便扩充你的军队和扩大你的领土,而牺牲其他拒绝接受你的仁慈规则的国家。 与此同时,你的行为也必须兼顾人民的幸福,繁荣,并制服你的政治竞争者。5 Q% r; N( F7 G* c& {
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& N! f; ?; N9 k0 H5 O5 W1 e6 `( aIt sounds like pretty normal stuff for a game like this, but don’t believe it and instead by all means download the free PDF Players Guide, for there is much wisdom within its 214 pages. No, the book is not absolutely necessary to learn how to play the game, but it is really helpful to understand how your gameplay impacts the behind the screen calculations that determine whether you win or lose. In effect, you win the game by the accumulation of Legacy Points, sorta the concept Brad Pitt talked about in the movie Troy concerning whether people would remember his name - Achilles - after he died. Having a specific amount greater than the second place empire will win you the game automatically, while having more than anyone else at the end will do likewise. Legacy is a balance between your empire’s Culture (points) which is positive, and Decadence (points) which is negative. The latter is normally generated per region automatically but can increase or decrease based on a number of things such as political decisions, changing ** types, construction beneficial to society or after pacifying newly conquered provinces..
- N2 c, e; t0 ^7 W8 ?+ V1 V6 l对于像这样的游戏来说,这听起来很普通,但不要相信它,而要去下载免费的PDF游戏指南,因为它的214页内包含了很多智慧。这本书对于学习如何玩游戏并不是绝对必要的,但了解你的游戏玩法如何影响决定你输赢的计算是非常有帮助的。实际上,你通过累积遗产点(Legacy Points)来赢得游戏,这就是布拉德皮特在电影“特洛伊”中谈到的关于人们是否会在他去世后记住他的名字 - 阿基里斯的概念。拥有比第二名帝国更大的特定数量遗产点数将自动赢得游戏,而最终拥有比其他任何人更多遗产点数的玩家同样也会。遗产是你的帝国文化(点数)之间的平衡,这是积极的,而衰退(点数)是消极的。后者通常是按地区自动生成的,但可以根据诸如政治决策,政府类型变化,对社会有益的建设或安抚新征服的省份之类的事情而增加或减少。) T; |5 c" s& [( g' J7 o  y
Your decisions here will also impact your Civilization Level I (as in Tribal Horde) thru III (as in Empire), and the five sub-levels within each (Young, Stable, Glorious, Old and Decadent), plus the so-called Progress Tokens they provide or deduct due to losing or completing objectives such as conquering a particular region and a host of other factors. In general, the higher your Civilization Level, the more decision making authority you acquire and the more impact your decisions concerning resource management will have. And this, of course, feeds back into the Legacy concept and round and round we go.
6 J2 ~  U, ~9 j$ ?+ f( n你在这里的决定也将影响你的文明一级(如部落)到三级(如帝国),以及每个中的五个子级别(年轻,稳定,光荣,旧和颓废),以及由于失去或完成目标而提供或扣除的所谓的进步代币,例如征服特定区域和许多其他因素。 一般而言,文明程度越高,您获得的决策权越多,您对资源管理的决策所产生的影响就越大。 当然,这反过来又回归到遗产概念中,并且我们在这里走了一圈又一圈。
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- Y" y8 U9 g9 `- o! wThat’s a pretty simplistic overview and I do have to wonder how much it will matter to the typical gamer. I do wonder whether most folks will simply ignore these issues and play the game as a pure military operation to see how much territory they can conquer most quickly. Seriously, you theoretically can win this game with Legacy Points although your empire has collapsed. That’s like winning at the Alamo because you lasted longer and inflicted more casualties than historically happened, even though in the end you were still wiped out. However, because things like Decadence will indirectly impact on how well you are able to do exactly that, this kind of ignorance can be dangerous. Its what makes a grand strategy game a grand strategy game and another VII Ave’s to AGEOD for creating such an innovative system to replicate this, one that does not emphasize military prowess to the degree other games do.$ a6 d/ A+ o* h2 {" r0 M" t
这是一个非常简单的概述,我很想知道这对典型的游戏玩家有多大意义。 我确实想知道大多数人是否会简单地忽略这些问题并将游戏作为一种纯粹的军事行动来看待他们能够最快地征服多少领土。 说真的,理论上你可以用Legacy Points赢得这场比赛,尽管你的帝国已经崩溃了。 这就像在阿拉莫(Alamo)获胜一样,因为你持续的时间更长,造成的伤亡人数比历史上更多,尽管最后你还是被摧毁了。 但是,因为像衰落这样的东西会间接影响你能够做到这一点的能力,这种无知可能是危险的。 它使得大型战略游戏成为一款大型战略游戏,而另一款VII Ave的作品则为AGEOD创造了这样一个创新系统来复制这个游戏,这种游戏不会像其他游戏那样强调军事实力。3 q0 R% _( b- _+ V; c2 y, c
Otherwise, the game looks and plays at the grand strategic level pretty much the same way it did when I participated in the first FOGE playtesters’ challenge. The only cosmetic change immediately evident was now the province or region you’ve clicked on to manage now lightly pulsates its color. I originally thought it annoying, but after awhile I really liked it as it quickly directed my attention where it currently needed to be. There are also a few other unique playing points that deserve a re-mention, not the least of which is the ability to move your population around to emphasize certain types of construction or infrastructure management, and to shuffle said population’s slave and citizen proportions to increase loyalty. Likewise, if you conquer the correct, contiguous regions, you can combine them into a Province which eases your administrative burden because you can treat this real estate as a single entity and sluff policy implementation to the AI. On the military front, both size and force structure make a difference because there are now penalties if you march into a large region with too few troops, or not the correct mixture of troops." |: j+ `5 T0 K# [
否则,游戏在宏伟的战略层面上看起来和玩法的方式与我参加第一次FOGE测试时的方式非常相似。唯一显而易见的外界装饰改变现在是您点击管理的省或地区,现在有轻微地会变动它的颜色。我原本以为这很烦人,但过了一段时间我真的很喜欢它,因为它很快引导我注意它目前需要的地方。还有一些其他独特的游戏点值得重新提及,其中最重要的是能够移动你的人口来强调某些类型的建筑或基础设施管理,并改变所述人口的奴隶和公民比例以增加忠诚。同样,如果您征服了正确的,连续的区域,您可以将它们组合成一个省,这可以减轻您的行政负担,因为您可以将此地视为单一实体,并将人工政策实施到AI。在军事方面,规模和军队结构都有所不同,因为如果你的部队太少或者没有正确组合,现在会受到惩罚。3 ~' x$ `) |$ }; S

% K2 ~  Z* h8 ]$ D$ ]1 EWhich is a great segue into perhaps the most innovative part of the game.
( F( ]& ]0 f4 }% k- }这可能是游戏中最具创新性的部分。9 ?/ _* O+ _4 q  o/ \
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There is little doubt that a lot of hoopla over FOGE is due the ability to export battles into the tactical Field of Glory II(FOG2) computer game, fight the engagement out at the Cohort level, then import the results back into FOGE. So it was when I cranked up this latest edition to review I noticed two scenarios listed, one for the Grand Campaign (uh no, gotta sleep sometime) and one for a 15 turn, military oriented Pyrrhus Scenario 281 BC. Wanting to chuck a few Pila as quickly as possible, I selected this option and chose to play as the fledging Roman Republic, taking a turn or two to build a few extra Legions. I was curious as to how long I would wait to find someone to fight. Dumb question.
- q- V6 S, E+ _2 d+ kOn turn one Pyrrhus and a 90 point Epirot army roared into one of the regions of Province Italia Inferior, while a 28 point Tarentum army invaded a sister region. Next turn, new Legions in hand, I marched to meet the Epirots who immediately withdrew and of course I followed. The two factions ignored my army in Tarentum prime and instead circled back and by game turn three I had all the Greek Phalangists on the planet sitting outside Rome. The Senate was all a dither, but the city held until I could counter-march my Legions back to confront Pyrrhus, and that’s when magic began.! W: c" ~, ?' N0 V' L
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The window for the Battle in Latium has a button that says Export Battle, and when you click it FOGE saves your turn and closes, bringing up the FOG2 splash screen. When you play, click on Battles and on the resulting screen Empires Battles. This will take you to the imported battle where you will be given a choice of redeploying your troops and adding an extra general on turn one, the first of 24. Accept this and let the arrows loose.
/ u. F* G3 s! a: b6 U6 qFor my battle the terrain was not the generic, simplistic mish-mash you often get in other grand strategy games which proclaim an imbedded tactical system. Instead, you get a drop dead gorgeous terrain table with lots of terrain, hobbit hovels and all. The armies themselves are the same expertly rendered figures you find in FOG2, so in reality you are now playing a typical FOG2 game. Not.
1 O: ?* o4 O. L" A# M" [, g/ SRemember that manual I told you about? Read pages 135 – 140 on the battle system, and commit this sentence to memory, “In addition, it is worth noting that the game has been balanced around the battle system within Empires. So, in certain situations, it will be easier or harder to win if the battle is conducted in FOG2.” One of the things this might mean is that the units in the battle might look like the same units as in a standard FOG2 battle, but their underlying characteristics may well have changed. For example, Experience Points or upgrades from FOGE are likely to have been exported for units into FOG2. Likewise, there may well have been some substitutions since some FOGEunits might not exist in FOG2 and vice versa. Combat results might also have changed.
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" {9 h& k5 K3 e  v! S6 j7 BAt Latium, I’m betting Pyrrhus wishes he had some gold old fashioned A-10 Warthog or Typhoon FGR4 close air support, but since it wasn’t 1776, he had to suck it up and deal. And dealing with it meant facing Roman heavy infantry rated Elite (vice above average normally; I checked) with the Alae, those troops from Rome’s Italian allies, rated Superior. On impact, these lads were clocking up to 85 enemy casualties while receiving but 12 of their own. Some Epirot and Tarentum units were Fractured and broke immediately, while conversely you could hit a Roman Triarii unit with everything but the proverbial kitchen basin for five turns straight and it would still trigger a “Held Firm” label. With this kind of bulldozer, maneuver was unnecessary as the Romans were able to plow straight thru the center before either flank could be turned. Thus with eight turns left Rome was declared the victor, losing 30% of its own army while inflicting 63% casualties on the enemy. Returning to FOGE one saw the proud Roman soldier still on the field of battle, while what was left of Pyrrhus’ army had boarded ship for a very long journey home.
, Q7 W( g) H7 T0 ]+ Y2 Z  O, ~7 I  QI did notice that the AI led Epirot-Tarentum forced seemed abnormally docile and wouldn’t move a sandal until I advanced and forced the issue, Phalangists maneuvered as independent units and light troops were a real pain. In the latter case, and Pyrrhus had a lot of these soldiers, the problem is that the battle is decided on how many units you rout, and light troops can pretty much Evade away from anything, as can heavy horse, something that took me by surprise. I was also just a little surprised that the size of the armies weren’t bigger given the number of points involved.. x1 O/ o; U5 r
Regardless, the thing to remember is that in this game, the FOG2 battles are based on FOGE unit parameters so they will not play the same as you are used to, even between armies you might have a host of experience with.
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FOGE is a revolutionary game, because its not just one game, and for this reason I wonder how well it will be received. Most gamers I know like to play battles or run countries, but not both. Thus while battle games like FOG2or Sengoku Jidai do have campaign options, these are simplified activities designed for nothing else but generating tactical engagements. Strategic games do the same, except in reverse. However, with FOGE and FOG2 you actually have a hybrid that works so smoothly together (and I saw not a hiccup once moving between the two) that in reality it has spawned a third completely different game. And this new game, because of this strategic-tactical integration, is bound to produce a completely different type of gameplay because now, battles actually mean something to the bigger picture and they don’t work the way they used to.( X2 v( R" u# [6 j6 \, X
Wow, I hope this concept is well received. Yes, this will make overall gameplay more time intensive since you are kicking in several extra hours to fight Latium and whatever comes after, but what a unique and challenging experience that will be. I heartily recommend you go for it, particularly since whatever this game costs, I’m betting a less expensive FOGE-FOG2 bundle is on the horizon.
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